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2009-114 Minutes

PDF-UA 2009-114

  Minutes May 13, 2009

PDF/UA Working Group Teleconference

PDF/UA (Universal Accessibility) Working Group Draft Meeting Agenda

Wednesday, May 13, 2009,  3:00 P.M. - 5:00 P.M. ET

Conference Call Information
International Dial-in: +1-303-928-2600
U.S. Dial-in: 1-888-742-8686
Conference ID: 7083945

NOTE:  The meeting will be conducted "live" on the Wiki and will require
all participating Committee members to edit the Wiki during the meeting.

Roll Call, check-in re Wiki changes, ensure all participants are properly registered (please re-register ahead of time).

  • Duff Johnson DJ, Chair Document Solutions

  • Cherie Ekholm CE, Microsoft

  • Ferass Elreyes FE, Netcentric Technologies

  • Betsy Fanning BF, AIIM

  • Mark Gavin MG, Appligent Document Solutions

  • Greg Pisocky GP, Adobe Systems

  • Leonard Rosenthol LR, Adobe Systems

  • Neil Soiffer NS, Design Science

Review PDF/UA 2009-113 Agenda

Rosenthol / Soiffer

Approval of 2009-112 Minutes

Elreyes / Soiffer

Chair and ISO Project Leader report on Hamburg meeting

Cherie Ekholm: Brief meeting. In attendance were Duff J, Leonard R., Dennis Newman, Martin Bailey, Olaf Drummer,

Discussion around the 6 comments of the draft spec. 1 technical concerning removing the clause in the table section that said something about not using tables only for content layout. Others were editorial. Significant cleanup. The draft on the WiKi has most of the cleanup done. Fix Bibliography. References to 32000 updated to 32000 part 2.

Longest conversation concerned German comment. Is it proper to have PDF/UA a separate specification. Centered around the issue of having a specification that is verifiable. Result, verifiable but not necessarily machine verifiable.

PDF/UA is awaiting notification that it has achieved ISO Committee Draft status.

The US committee can continue to propose additional edits to the draft.

Opportunity to achieve Draft International Standard (DIS) by May 2010.

  • Dennis Newman - Conveneer
  • Cherie Ekholm - Project Leader
  • Duff Johnson - US Head of Delegation

The ISO 32000 Committee has accepted all of the PDF/UA requests.

All additional changes going forward must be made as comments on the draft or made as proposal submissions for ISO 32000 and submitted to the ISO 32000 Committee.

A list of changes is in development and will be submitted in accordance with the ISO guidelines.

Next big ISO meeting will be TC 171 in October 2009 in Orlando, FL.

Discuss Committee objectives for the next 6 months, set schedule for summer, 2009

  • CE to create a document for circulation, Hamburg document plus comments
  • Summer Schedule
    • June 3, 2009
    • June 17, 2009
    • July 8, 2009
    • July 22, 2009
    • August 5, 2009
  • Review Updates
  • Review Editorial Comments
  • Discuss how insert
  • Review 32000
  • Review additional materials for PDF/UA

Address Action Items items

Document is now a Microsoft Word file labelled 2009-05-05 in the drafting space.

LR discussed issues related to section 6.11 Text

zxx, und, and mul to be converted to should statements for ISO 32000 and make shall statements for UA compliance.

Remove the Editors Note regarding Language. Convert natural language provision to should statements for 32000 and revise 6.11 to make shall statements for UA compliance.

Bibliography 32000 part 1 refers to Unicode Standard 4 as a normative reference. UA should be modified to update to the Unicode spec.

NS Add dropped sentence regarding Math to US Comments. NS: Should 6.9 say, "character code mappings in 6.11 shall be followed" or change to what is currently the bullet point?"

Update 7.2 is that the correct location for the tabs key. Verified correct.

Completed finalizing the CD items

7 Changes

Should be located as comments. Obtain the comments template from BF first.

What, if anything, do we need to say to ensure that our intention, in terms of requiring PDF/UA authors to use all the available tags in 32000-2 to structure their document?

NS: 14.7.3 reference to structure should be to 14.8.4

6.1 Tables Text was dealt with in Hamburg

Other items in the New Content working space were reviewed

Adopt text for Regarding Redaction

Individual redactions from PDF documents shall be represented by an object, whether visible or invisible. This object shall be tagged with a Redaction tag.

Justifications for redactions shall be tagged with a Justification tag.

MG: A normative definition of the term "redaction" should help provide meaning for non-US readers.

Language Direction

See the related request for ISO 32000 

CE would like to have international review of the section as well.

DJ will also reach out to AT vendors

CE to provide DJ with Standard Comment Template

Items in New Contents Working Space

Verify Bibliography material

Wrapup and Adjourn

Next meeting Wednesday, June 3, 2009 3:00 - 5:00 pm eastern

International Dial-in: +1-303-928-2600
U.S. Dial-in: 1-888-742-8686
Conference ID: 7083945

Meeting Adjourned

4:54 eastern time

Ekholm  / Soiffer