2007-104 Minutes

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Duff Johnson - DJ, Chair Document Solutions
Leonard Rosenthol - LDR, Adobe
Neil Soffer, NS, Design Science

Sean Keegan, SK, Hitech Center, Training Unit, CA Comm. College

Betsy Fanning, AIIM 

Approval of PDF/UA 2007-103 Agenda

LDR nominates and NS seconds

Approval of 2007-102 Minutes

Review Action Items, updates from assignees

Action Items:

Sean added himself to the roster! 

Multimedia:

Come up with object examples of multi-media in a PDF setting. Leonard Rosenthol has a collection of such items. 3D, embedded movies, embedded caption video, etc.

LDR uploaded a couple to the Test Files page. 

Math:

NS: Wants to discuss this at the "face to face" in April.

Multimedia changes

GP: Incomplete.

Tables

NS; Ready for review!

Text

JC not present.

Lists

We think that GP is all done with it.

Update Action Items, review ASSIGNMENTS.

Annotations

there is a new way to handle them and that's been implemented

Wiki Menus 

DJ to do something with wiki menus. 

Action Item update 

 Action Items Updated accordingly.

Adobe's ISO and PDF Announcement 

DJ: But the PDF Reference today isn't in "ISO-ese"

LDR/BF: True.  However, as the document is brought into ISO it will be "reformatted" to meet the ISO requirements, but with a few changes as possible in order to maintain the integrity of the standard.   Future versions, however, may find changes and enhancements

DJ: So ISO will accept this format?

BF: Yes.  

LDR: We will work with AIIM/ISO to do what is correct.

DJ: What about areas that are ambiguous?

LDR: If there are areas that need to be cleaned up, they will be addressed.

NS: Will this impact us?  Should we change to use it instead of Adobe's 1.6?

BF: That's up to the committee.  But if you don't, that's OK too.

LDR: There are good reasons to do this, since others are doing it

NS: Were there actual tagging/structure changes?

LDR: Yes

DJ:  Would all the PDF WG's come together?

BF: No plans for this!

NS: Will the PDF WG take other group's input?

LDR: Of course!

DJ: So they will keep PDF as a continuing process?

LDR: Of course!

DJ: So Adobe has to turn their directions over to the committee as well?

LDR: Anything that Adobe wishes to have part of the public PDF standard, they will need to make available just like any other company.

DJ: So this initial release will be 1.7 as it stands, and then future PDFs will be run by this committee?

LDR/BF: Yes!

DJ: but the committee can choose to change 1.7 now.

LDR: Yes, true.  though not a good idea

DJ: What about great ideas, like Neil's Math work?

BF/LDR: you can take it to the committee and they will make a decision.

LDR: And PDF/UA isn't going away

DJ: timeline?

BF: still in development.  Will be notified when we have more info.

DJ: Works like UA?

BF: Yes, just like any other ISO WG.

What is the High Tech Center 

Grant funded for (115) CA Comm colleges

R&D into assistive computer tech - esp. web & documents

Been working on accessible PDF documentation & recommendations (Best Practices) for many years

BIG consumer for PDF/UA 

Lots of relationships with assistive tech vendors - in terms of "pushing" and adoption

DJ: what do you think of what you see (about PDF/UA 1.0 draft)?  What do you think you can contribute?

DJ: we certainly hope you can help us with practical experience in how screen readers work and how they can/should look.

SK: we hope to aid this committee in demonstrating our needs based on current limitations.  Still have much more reading to do, but plan to have feedback.

SK: text, tables, lists, multimedia are all key items!

DJ explains how to use a wiki...

Modules

Tables

NS explains the table algorithms to SK 

Wrapup

NS: We only have 4 meetings before "Face to Face" - so let's make some progress! 

Next meeting February 21, 2007 3:00 - 5:00 pm EST

Adjourn

Meeting adjourned at 4:20 pm EST
Rosenthol / Soiffer